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★★★★★★★变形金刚真人电影(先期试映版)观后感〖2〗篇★★★★★


Harry and gang - Long time listener, first time caller...

First, let me say, I don't know how to write a review so stick with me, I have a lot of thoughts in my head about this movie so this could be all over the place. But I just HAD to write in, I am currently the most happyest fanboy on earth!

Here is the short version:

I JUST SAW OPTIMUS PRIME IN AN ORGY OF KICKASSERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1) Screw you guys. The flames are cool. Nipples on batman = lame, flames on optimus = cool.

2) The robots in general are OUTSTANDING. I think ILM is doing them right? Whoever it is needs a raise - they look so real in the scenes its unbelievable (except frenzy or soundbyte or whatever he is. I’ll get into that later). They blend with the "real world" stuff so well, its awesome.

3) Optimus "lips" look bad and just piss me off. I can't imagine it will bother the general public, but anyone who has an attachment to "prime" will have issue with this for sure. There is no reason to give him lips. He speaks a few times with the shield up and it totally works….anyway. That is my only MAJOR gripe with the film. (but I doubt it's worse than "Cloudactus")

4) Shia Labuof is great as Sam Witwicky. I really wasn't sure how I would feel about him, but he nails it. He's got a great vibe on screen, I really wanted him "win". He's actually very funny as well. Great casting, he's legit.

5) Megan Fox (im sure that's no coincidence), I have no clue if she can act or not because I was fixated on her tits and ass whenever she was onscreen - pure sex (god bless you Michael Bay). I had to IMDB her after the movie because I had no idea who she is or what she had been in. I didn't care then and I don't care now.

6) Supporting cast is far better than I expected. Turturro is great as the quirky head of Sector Seven. The ladies in the audience im sure loved the beefcake tyrese and josh "las vegas" duhmel. Bernie mac and Anthony Anderson are very very funny in their small roles.

7) Action…seriously…you've never seen anything like this. Hate all you want on Bay, this is THE guy you want creating giant robot mayhem! And he does.

Here is the long version:

Last week I was at the Harkins Arrowhead Theater here in Peoria, Arizona to see Blades of glory. When I was leaving, some theater person handed me a flyer and asked if I wanted to see a test screening of an "upcoming PG-13 major release summer action movie" (or something like that, I can't remember). Being a movie geek, and a broke one, I was like "fuck yeah, free movie".

I've never been to a preview or test screening or whatever before, so I didn't really know what to expect. All week I had been trying to figure out what it could be, my friend said "just pray it's not "Flatulence Four: taking a number two"" THANK GOD it wasn't…that would have sucked. I was thinking maybe Die Hard or maybe Pirates, but I honestly never thought I would be Transformers, I figured with all the CG that it probably wasn't ready yet. I was partly right.

Anyway, i showed up last night at the same Harkins and the theater was packed, looked like a lot of families with kids and some scattered people around my age (I'm 28). After we sat for a few minutes I was looking around at the group of "reserved" seats that were taped off….and then I saw him….MICHAEL FUCKING BAY was in the house! Right then I knew what was up and I thought I was gonna SHIT!

I didn't say anything to anyone…mainly because I didn't know anyone else there…but I knew… I couldn't believe my luck. there could have been some other cast or something there, but I didn't recognize anyone else in the audience.

A few minutes after The Bay sat down ( I am an open Bay supporter (minus Pearl Harbor) so you can commence with your blind hateration below at anytime) , a very studio looking guy stood up in front of the theater and told us that "a lot of effects weren't done and the music was temp" blah blah. I didn't give a shit- I wanted the fucker to start! He finally says we are the "first audience to see
TRANSFORMERS!"

There was a loud cheer in the theater, I looked around and many of the older moms/dads didn't quite get it, but their kids seemed to know the score. I saw two 15ish year old fat kids do a chest bump…alas, I had no one to chest bump- but I totally would have!

So then the movie started, I have to be honest, I was smiling ear to ear- I was about to see the MOTHERFUCKING TRANSFORMERS before anyone else!

FIRST, BITCHES! (never been able to say that before :)

So, the movie…

电影开始画面看起来象是星球的表面,塞伯坦,但这绝对不是我们以前在动画里看到的塞伯坦。它更象是岩石、山脉、荒地,但有生命迹象。之后我们听到了一个熟悉的声音....擎他妈的天柱(原文是OPTIMUS FUCKING PRIME),尽管听起来比动画中较苍老与低沉。这肯定是Peter Cullen。他讲述了关于火种源的简短历史以及为什么它在战争中遗失并且所有的变形金刚都出动在整个银河系里寻找 。我们看到火种源从太空来到地球,象彗星一样划过天空。擎天柱停止叙述,屏幕变黑,变形金刚logo出现。没有冗长的人名表,反正也没人想看。只有一个logo,这种感觉很好。

Logo之后我们来到了沙漠,一群美军刚刚来到卡塔尔。Josh Duhmel,Tyrese与越狱里那个拉丁人(就是Sucre)。他们说了些屁话后Josh开始和自己的妻儿进行网络视频。这时一架本不属于这里的直升机回航了,响起不祥的音乐响起。直升机降落后被美军包围,但这对于直升机来说根本就是渣,因为直升机是眩晕,他就是来破坏的。

这段画面在trailer里有。当眩晕开始变形的时候,美军都吓的屁滚尿流。这次没有象trailer里被剪辑。眩晕变形、起身、震得人仰马翻。

变形难以致信,太他妈的酷了。齿轮移动,金属摩擦,活塞抽送,而且有动画中变形的声音。眩晕在那里肆意妄为,美军根本无能为力。这里出现了一些trailer中见过的场面,如坦克在空中翻飞....这段眩晕大闹美军基地的情节大概3-4分钟,太他妈的牛了。Tyrese卧倒在地,眩晕盯着他看了一会儿,从背后抽出了巨蝎怪....

接下来我们就看到了Sam所在的学校,之后的一些场景则是一些对剧情发展很重要的东西,比如Sam为了泡妞去买他的第一辆车做铺垫。

Sam泡妞的故事还是很有趣的。Sam在大黄蜂的帮助下慢慢泡到了妞(Megan Fox)。大黄蜂不会说话,他只是通过车内收音机与人交流。

Sam和他老爸去买自己的第一辆车,遇到了二手车商Bobby B(大致是这个名字)。Bobby B这个名字显然是向大黄蜂致敬的(Bumblebee)。Bernie Mac演的Bobby B是个戏份很少但很有趣的人物,但却很爆笑。当Sam得到大黄蜂时,边上还有一辆老式VW的甲壳虫,这也是向G1大黄蜂致敬。

影片整体上很有趣,平时轻松愉快,但到了战斗的时候,就是典型的Bay风格了。

Shia's parents in the film are very well cast and they are really funny, much more so than any other Bay characters of the past in my opinion. It feels like this is the first time where he decided to embrace some elements of cheese and run with it. I am glad he did. It works, mainly because Shia is really really great as a semi-woody allen type kid, I was genuinely impressed with him throughout the movie.

So it doesn't take long for Shia to find out that BB is not just a shitty old car, it's a big ass robot…he also soon finds out that there are bad big ass robots that need something from him. He gets chased by Barricade (the cop car) and BB comes to his rescue and we see the first Robot vs. Robot action….i was a little disappointed by this in the sense that it was shot in a way where you really never got a good look at either of them. After seeing the rest of the film I can see why, they wanted to save it, but when I was watching it it bothered me that I couldn't get a good clean look at the bots.

Also during this time a small "boombox" robot is on Air Force one (unsure how he got there, wouldn't an x-ray see that it wasn't normal? ) anyway, he gets into the belly of the plane and starts hacking for info and then gets in a fight with some secret service agents. Frenzy (I think that's who it is based on internet info, they never really say) is a little bothersome from a viewer perspective. He is very shiny metal and doesn't blend with the background nearly as well as the rest of them---this COULD be one of those "not yet done" things, I hope it is.

It was sometimes hard to tell what exactly wasn't complete CG wise. Sometimes it was super obvious and sometimes there were small hints that it wasn't complete. I'm not sure where this bots stands in that sense.

I'll refrain from describing too much detail with the rest of the film because im not a fan of spoilers. Ill simply make some general observations.

我认为我自己是一个中度TF迷。G1动画的每一集,和G1大电影,我都看过很多遍,我期待今年这部电影已经20余年,但我接受为了符合电影标准做出的所有改变。一些特点/历史/准则需要被改写甚至是被忽略,我接受这些。

机器人的设计发生了变化,在我看来,这是正确的选择,当你在电影里看到你就会明白。原来动画里那些方方正正的设计放到电影里不会好看,会看起来很傻。至于OP的嘴,那是另一回事,的确很烂,至少目前是这样。

我很期望那个叫红蜘蛛的狂派家伙,能多点戏份。他基本是在试看的末期才登场。这家伙超牛逼,绝对是狂派里的大恶棍....我为此非常狂热,我只希望能有更多的红蜘蛛(戏份)

其他的狂派人物(除了威震天),在博派面前基本上都是瓜菜。

威震天,即使是在外星形态地也是超酷的。最后当他加入战团时立刻显现出领袖气质。他从不扫描任何地球形态,所以他还是停留在外星形态。我知道那叫原生体但我并不喜欢用这个词。

而且我们还是看到了一点点点威震天与红蜘蛛的对手戏。“红蜘蛛,你又让我失望了”!不过有些声音我听着还只是临时配音,比如威震天的声音我听着就不太象Hugo Weaving。



Optimus Prime- sword arm- fuckin sick! That's all im gonna say about that.

OP says more than a few of the "iconic" lines from the toon- there are many many nods and references to the history of TF, it's clear that there was a lot of thought into adding some "fan only" moments into the film that the general audience wont get, which was great.

I'd say about 25% of the robot stuff was still temp and there was very little music/score in place so some scenes felt a bit slow and hard to keep up with, but I think once the FINAL movie is out in theatres those moments will be fixed.

So to sum this all up: This is a Michael Bay movie. Make no mistake about it. You can see influences from Spielberg and a conscious effort to make this not just a blow em up bang bang movie (although I would have been fine with that). The last 30 minutes is non-stop robot destruction- I honestly couldn't tell you everything that happened because it was just so damn awesome I had a hard time even keeping up- i almost wish I hadn't seen it….because now I have to wait TWO MORE FUCKING MONTHS TO SEE IT AGAIN…explosions, destruction, robots flying through the air, shooting missiles and rockets from their arms- absolute insanity on city streets. This is what I wanted to see out of this movie. There are some things that you may shake your head at or roll your eyes during, but when you see the goods, the stuff WE ALL want to see, you let the other stuff slide. Or at least I did.

Cardsfan34

p.s. Go suns, fuck the lakers
p.p.s. commence hating……now!
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只看该作者  [楼主]1  发表于: 2007-06-07 22:31:25
一位在美国的tf迷看完小规模试映以后激动的文字...听上去真棒!!!
 

太TMD爽了,爽到我无法用语言来表达,变形金刚史上最大的革命,真人电影是一部让所有TF核心FANS和非核心FANS能够共同尖叫到极点的神作。

1.革命
之前评价真人电影机设烂的人,评价是机器异形的人在看过这群怪物动起来之后就会发现:去TMD的啥G1吧,真人电影的机设才是变形金刚应该有的样子。
片中的每一个细节都被表现的精致到掉渣。每一个细节都会让人激动到发指。预告片中的悬晕变形在正片中整整长达30秒,伴随着很G1的变形声音,每一个零件都被表现到逆天。
大黄蜂的变形很一般,因为是试映版的原因,所以没有太多表现,正片时会更好。
好了说一下我们的重头人物,OP大哥!他的变形是整个电影中所有角色变形的最帅的。整个过程让我激动的当时在影院里叫起了起来。感觉就是如果现实里有OP,那么变形就是这样的。连柚,齿轮,机械内构,爽到让人无法用语言表达。
红蜘蛛的登场实在是帅到掉渣,整个空中表现就像是前段时间的某部飞机大片。虽然他是逆足,但是并不影响他的实力,片中唯一一个和OP交过手且并未输的很惨的狂派。
老威也很赞,尤其是从冰里觉醒的那段,我老威又回来了~!

2.致敬
片中的G1细节多到另人发指,除了之前提到的大黄蜂的KUSO外,OP很赞的说出了那句:"老威必须被阻止,不惜一切代价~!"然后很86大电影的变形出发。
老威咒骂小红的台词基本上全是照搬G1。腐女们,减叫吧,虽然他们毁容了,但是CP还是没变的~!
-------华丽的腐女专用分割线------------
老威是女王受,OP是攻,你们失望了吧?没关系~!
铁皮和爵士的JQ没有延续小说。
--------华丽的正常分割现-------------
人物方面:狂派除了小红和老威外,都是出来让博派砍的。基本上除了看他们群殴外没有留下任何印象。
博派方面:OP比G1的OP更加强大,而且会也不是单纯的保护人类,有些时候会博派优先。(OP控们,尖叫吧!OP这次太强了~!)
大黄蜂,整个电影戏分第一多的TF,很人类,感觉和G1探长很像。
铁皮:除了他BT到除了老威外逮谁灭谁的战斗力外,基本上没有很强的表现。
爵士:除了很G1的欣赏摇滚外,没有任何抢眼表现
救护车:存在感最薄弱的角色。
小红:比G1还G1,除了脸以外。
老威:他出来后整个电影就快完了。
说一下最后一战:铁皮,爵士,救护车,大黄蜂4人群殴一堆狂派,但是铁皮的战力是最BT,最逆天的,基本上狂派都是他搞定的,那仨感觉是在打下手。然后老威华丽的登场,4人华丽的被PIA飞,接下来OP更华丽的出场。然后,整个城市很迈克尔贝的在燃烧,在变成渣。
P.S:大家看最后一段战斗时,仿佛能够听见美元燃烧的声音。

3.人类
男主角一直在见证整个战斗,感觉很大众化,和我身边的美国人一样,很有代入感。女主角很性感,很漂亮,这就够了,不要指望她会有任何有益举动的。
我的美军同仁们,你们战斗力是不是有点太BT了,只凭M4那破玩艺和两条腿就能从狂派手下逃生?
总统大叔,你吖真英明!
第7区隐约出现在台词中,但并没有露出庐山真面目。

4.细节
H社啊,广告真是无孔不入~!小马宝利出来就算了,还有GIJOE(据某个JOE迷说里面的美军至少有2个是GIJOE的人物)和儿乐宝(最后大战中被毁的玩具店里华丽的露了一小脸)
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只看该作者 2  发表于: 2007-06-07 22:36:08
这不都是AC这里发的嘛....
第一篇是我翻译的
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只看该作者 3  发表于: 2007-06-07 22:36:36
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只看该作者  [楼主]4  发表于: 2007-06-07 22:43:07
引用第2楼Stryker于2007-06-07 22:36发表的  :
这不都是AC这里发的嘛....
第一篇是我翻译的


不会吧~~汗
看来我对TF还是了解甚少。。。

下次多看看这里的帖子再发~不好意思。。。
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只看该作者 5  发表于: 2007-06-07 22:49:48
惨!不小心看完了:(——下次写上有剧透吧帮主
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只看该作者 6  发表于: 2007-06-07 23:40:22
看完知道老美激动起来也骂人~!
难道和小日本学的?
美版就要蹂躏,日版就要摧残
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只看该作者 7  发表于: 2007-06-08 00:10:30
引用第4楼zzznnn999于2007-06-07 22:43发表的  :
不会吧~~汗
看来我对TF还是了解甚少。。。
.......


第二篇 还是 BT贱鸟 写的,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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只看该作者 8  发表于: 2007-06-08 00:11:55
出了期待就是期待.........
玩具真TM贵........
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只看该作者 9  发表于: 2007-06-08 01:56:48
哪儿来的斑竹???没见过~~~
建议还是以正业为主,原来干吗还干吗去吧...
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只看该作者  [楼主]11  发表于: 2007-06-08 08:11:38
引用第9楼mauskopf于2007-06-08 01:56发表的  :
哪儿来的斑竹???没见过~~~
建议还是以正业为主,原来干吗还干吗去吧...


唉~想带来点惊喜~
失败啊~~~~~~~~~OTL
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只看该作者 12  发表于: 2007-06-08 08:54:38
“变形难以致信,太他妈的酷了。齿轮移动,金属摩擦,活塞抽送”
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只看该作者 13  发表于: 2007-06-08 09:02:41
28的“年轻人”,写得真tm激情,哈哈
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只看该作者 14  发表于: 2007-06-08 12:39:22
哈哈哈哈,出口转内销。
[长期求购mg驾驶员版件]
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只看该作者 15  发表于: 2007-06-08 15:26:00
引用第12楼polozzz于2007-06-08 08:54发表的  :
“变形难以致信,太他妈的酷了。齿轮移动,金属摩擦,活塞抽送” [表情]

这句话可以有很大的想象空间
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只看该作者 16  发表于: 2007-06-08 16:54:21
粗口,粗口!
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只看该作者 17  发表于: 2007-06-08 19:12:22
6月份的环球荧幕发表了这篇文章!想不到AC的影响力还挺大的嘛!:)
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只看该作者 18  发表于: 2007-06-08 21:17:10
p.s. Go suns, fuck the lakers......
看来是纳什的FAN啊。。。
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只看该作者 19  发表于: 2007-06-09 11:50:28
期待啊~~这个词 能看出粉丝对 TF 的喜欢程度~~OPTIMUS FUCKING PRIME~~~